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Moe

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On behalf of our team I want to apologize to E's team and the refs for our behavior as a TEAM last night.  I am not speaking about or for any individual on our team, I am speaking about all of us as a unit.  E congrats to your team on your victory you guys played great team ball everybody on your team stepped up C and the rest of the guys moved the ball well and you deserved to win habds down not to mention your first round pick wasn't even playing. E please next time you see issues on the court get heated up the way they did and somebody on your team, who refers to himself as the lowest mark of U.S. paper currency, decides to add more fuel to the fire for no reason, please put them in check because nobody wants to get their mouth wired shut twice in a lifetime.  About the refs, I understand that they are doing their job and making the calls as they see them.  We all need to understand that even pro refs miss calls here and there.  We all also know that every single one of us has got away with calls and have had calls go against us, so it works both ways for the most part and this is not the first time that I have defended the refs on the message board or off.  On the other hand I don' beleive it's right for a ref to check sport scores or text messages in the middle of a game, refs should not hold personal grudges against a player for any reason, celebrate or smurk in a players face after a shot is made or after a shot is made.  I know they are human too and it's not right for us to curse at them or insult them in any way, there is no excuse for that, but they need to either call more techs or kick the player out instead of making it personal.  I'm not pointing fingers at anybody but I think we all need to work at this together not just the refs or just the players but all of us.  Anyways I feel like Joey now so I gotta go.

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Tony J.

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Damn Mike,


I thought I was reading one of my posts.  E, Mike makes goo dpoints.  But Also, for the ref to tell Fadi it's not fair to allow him to post up is a direct admital that he will not allow Fadi to play his game.  I am not stating this because Fadi is on my team but it's been pretty evident that the guy is now playing more guard positions than down low for the simple fact there is not one guy in the league that can defend him one on one and rather than making the defense adjust with double teams, the refs just feel they wont make the calls to even out the disadvantage the defense has.  There is a reason Zeke and Fadi lead the league in fould every single season and it's not because tey are bad defenders. 


In regards to Jason and Fadi's outburst, I beleive it was warranted.  it was no different than last weeks outburst from joey's team (outside of a few F bombs).  With 2 minutes to go and us having 3 fouls to give, Jason was ready to send your team to the line after a foul.  he didn't even know what the **** was going on.  Jeff will atleast explain his call and give you the respect (even if we disagree and comlain about the call) outbursts on the court are from adreneline.  Jason basically tells you to **** off.  So he deserves anything he gets. 


12 fouls/1 technical to 2 fouls in the first 5 minutes of the game.  10 of those calls came from Jason and 5 of tem were on Fadi.  Explain that. 



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Daddy

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I can Explain it tony, that means I fouled someone 5 times, and then for swearing I received a tech.  Wow tony your stupid, its self explanatory.


 



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Tony J.

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Shut up bitch or else next time I'll put a hole in you and not your car.

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Daddy

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Relax   "Chetter BoB"

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Tony J.

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LOL, that's was a good one. 

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Joey K

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Other than the lowest denomination of currency remark, reading all that was the biggest waste of 5 minutes of my life ever. 

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Daddy

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That took you 5mins to read?  your in law school right?

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Joey K

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When I posted that I thought to myself "which stupid f$ck is going to make a comment about how long it took me to read it"

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Samer

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Joe cut your f*cking finger off!!!!!

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Daddy

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That would be me. So again it took you 5mins to read that?

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Joey K

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Can somebody please explain to me what happened last night and what Mike is going crazy about?

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Moe's #1 Fan

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Mike Youre Gay

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Daddy

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Hi joey

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Joey K

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Hello Fadi

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EJ

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Sorry for the long post, it's been a long day at work.


Mike, thanks but there was no need to apologize a few members of your team and I already talked, and it's all good, I just didn't want you guys to show that they got to you, you're a better team than that.


As far as your currency comments, they're uncalled for and not necessary...I've seen and heard worse that has happened on the court that hasn't been broadcast on the MB.


As far as the refs, you're right, they shouldn't be checking sports scores, be distracted during games, or try to hurry things along so that they can leave as soon as they can. 


As far as them holding personal grudges against indivdual players, I can't say...I would hope not, b/c that would be unprofessional.  However, anybody smurking at player when making a call, whistle in mouth, is beyond uncalled for...I don't know how much it crosses the line, b/c we have developed a relationship with these guys, we let things go and they let things go.


The only thing that I want to be sure of is that there is a basic mutual respect between everyone, players officials etc...if you're up in someone's face yelling at them regardless of the situation, you will not get a good reaction player-to-player or player-to-ref.  As far as I know, these guys haven't cussed at us directly, smart-ass comments and maybe stupid looks, yes, but nothing as to putting your hands on somebody and cussing them out.  Those two things should be completely out of the equation, b/c they get nothing solved.  As much as you can, this goes for everyone, whether you're on my team or not, let your game do the talking, and let the course of the game take care of itself.  If for whatever reason, you follow this and still feel like you're getting unfair treatment from another player or a referee, then let me know and it wil be taken care of.


Best Regards,


E


 



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Daddy

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I tried for two seasons not to curse at them and explain to them that they should call the game even, they have made no indication that they will. For two seasons they have favored guards as far as getting calls, for example If I do a pick and roll with my guards and someone like nick is switching on me and I back him down, he can easily flop and get the charge, but if I back derek petrus down and we bang until his dick is half way in my ass there is no call, I shouldnt have to change from play to play because of a weight and height advantage, the same goes for zeeke. We understand that this is a guards league and they will get the majority of the calls but it is not fair. They cared more about the tigers score (so did I ) then the game they were calling. I had every right to put my hands on him and I will do so untill Samer is removed from the committe.


As far as the "j dollar" comments, mike was sticking up for me, but I talked to him, and we decided to allow jalal to go to the hole untouched with out incident, but if i do foul him it will be warranted. That is why I will not discuss what happened between us and between me and the reffs.


-ray likes d!ck



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Joey K

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You all sound like a bunch of little b$%ches. 


Fadi, you and Zeke dont get calls b/c you draw all the contact.  You two gorillas should even be happy we let you in the league w/ as many hacks and charges the two of you commit.


 



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Joey K

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and in my opinion, Mike's currency comment was hilarious, there was nothing rude or uncalled for about it.



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EJ

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I never said the currency thing wasn't funny, but I do have a problem with the last part of the following statement, regardless if it was said as a joke or not, the meaning behind it was malicious:


"E please next time you see issues on the court get heated up the way they did and somebody on your team, who refers to himself as the lowest mark of U.S. paper currency, decides to add more fuel to the fire for no reason, please put them in check because nobody wants to get their mouth wired shut twice in a lifetime. "


First of all Joey was the one that had his mouth wired shut, which messed up my entire season, but I'm not bitter, love you Joey, and I'm really happy that you won with Ray and got the MVP, you're the best (*******)...


Anyway, to me, that sounds like a threat, that's why I thought it was stupid of Mike to post that comment and said it was uncalled for...Mike knows we've always been cool and I like talking to him, but there's no room for that type of bull**** in this league, from anyone...words were exchanged, as they are during every game, he didn't say I'm going to kick you in the face and then they come back with a comment like that.  And Fadi, if Mike was just sticking up for you, which is fine, he has every right to, b/c we all know that you can't handle yourself in a fight b/c you're a pacifist (min shirmee).  J, was doing the same thing in response to that b!tch foul you gave me, remember, the one where the ball was part of my hand, but you just decided to slap my hand instead, and then I said to you, "hey, nice bitch foul".  Anyway point being, if a foul on J Dollar would have been warranted b/c of retalliation to his "harsh comments", then on the way back down if I just happened to turn around and instead of kick you square in the ass like you did to JB, I had kicked you in the balls, it would have been OK, b/c I was getting you back for that slap on the hand.  Then you would be useless, you wouldn't be a d!ck and an a$$hole anymore, you'd just be an a$$hole.


Regardless, my point to all of this is that threats are pointless and just cause things to go back and forth in an endless cycle of violence.   Do the right thing.



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Daddy

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Elton lets get one thing straight this was between me and jalal, dont wory about whether mike was defending my actions or not. When I slapped your hand it was to prove a point to the reffs if you feel like it was a "b!tch a$$ foul, fine. Your comments right now about this and that is pure bull ****. Not in any of my posts did I mention you or your olive oil ass elbows.  "kick me in the balls"$. go ahead . Learn how to find the rim when you shoot b!tch then come talk to me.


 


Joey does your pu$$y hurt?


PS, Elton go **** yourself. your a self check


for real JOey does your pu$$y hurt



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Joey K

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Damn E, I was just talking about the currency comment, I really didnt mean to stir up anything extra.


Fadi, hello and good bye



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Tony J.

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****ing Joey, I told you guys, this guy talks **** just to start ****.  Elton, don't be too sensitive okay buddy.  Just have a word with Jason and let him know that he needs to come ref a game fairly and leave personal **** aside.  Also, to Fadi's point, don't let it be okay to pound the **** out of Fadi just because of his size advantage.  You better talk to him before next week because if that son of a bitch calls as many fouls as he did last week or doesn't call the fouls he needs to, we will be having the same discussion next week because I will replace Fadi's actions with mine. 


And by the way, Fadi did not put his hands on him disrespectfully.  He simply was asking Jason a question and naturally just put his hand on him as we do. 



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EJ

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Look Fadi, I'm not going to have time to go back and forth about this with you today, so when you read this, read it carefully and understand...btwn you and Jalal is one thing, but don't come say in your previous comments that me and so and so discussed it decided to let him go to the hole untouched.  You can't say sh!t like that, b/c the first thing out of anybody's mouth is going to be is "who f$%k do you think you are"  I don't care that Mike was defending you, that's up to him to do, I'd probably do the same thing minus a couple of comments if I was in his shoes.  I stated my comments the way that I did to show you the effect of your own words, and to use them against you in saying that, don't talk sh!t to people if you don't want the same type of things said back to you.  It's called mutual respect. 


Regarding my Olive Oil elbows, as far as I remember they were enough to keep you at a minimum in point total, which meant you didn't find the rim too well either.


Have a good day


p.s. B!TCH (mutual respect)



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EJ

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Tony, please stay on your side of Woodward and leave me alone man!

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Moe

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E if you read my posts carefully I was talking about mutual respect and how we all need to work together on making this work between players and refs and I made that very clear.  The comment I made about getting hit in the mouth was not a threat it was a statement based on a high percentage of occuring.  Let's not play dumb either, when a guy notices another guy get heated up the way Fadi did and he warns Jalal by telling to watch his mouth than there is no reason to continue to egg it on.  All i'm saying is that when you see tempers going off, like you said show some respect back off, or else things will get out of hand.  I have known Fadi since I was a kid and it would not have taken much more before he would have taken matters into his own hands E. Like I said I am not trying to make an issue out of this but it needs to be said to prevent issues in the future.

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Daddy

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I can take whatever you give me, I didnt know the reffs were on your "dick" as well. Its easy to hold somebody to a minimum WHEN THERE ON THE BENCH (what a loser!)


I can say whatever I want to whoever I want, and people can say whatever they want to me , we all paid the same amount to get in this league( GANOWA Committee) . SO FUCCK u ,


your a aftermarket chuck nevitt


 



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Nate Dogg

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Man I miss one game and miss the best part of the season.  From what I've read I think Gulli should be suspended for this week and week 10.  Its only fair.  It also has to be those weeks or it will no longer be fair.  Suspend someone else on that team too, why not.  


My bad to Yonos team, whats our name again?  I had some car troubles and Nick is an ******* thats why I was late.  It wont happen again.  I played like **** which should continue so Elia is gonna have 50 points this week, especially with 2 players suspended on Mikes team. 


BYE   



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Joey K

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Jerry, Jerry, Jerry!!!!

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EJ

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Mike, I did read and understand your post and believe that you do want to maintain a level of mutual respect throughout every aspect of the league.  Regardless of what you want to call it, a statement, a threat, a comment, a proclamation...it tells me the same thing, "if you keep talking sh!t, don't ask why you got hit".  I hate to drag it on, but there really needs to be a common understanding between you and I on this topic.  First Fadi was disrespecting himself and the ref when he got in his face, I don't care if the fouls were 30 to 1, that's the first thing.  Second, I'll give you that J was trying to get in his head, but who hasn't tried to do that to frustrate any player in our league, let alone a good player.  The game is 90% mental, 10%physical...Fadi will even tell you that he always tries to friustrate good players mentally to give his team an advantage.  There is nothing wrong with that.  But for him to say shut b!tch and expect to receive an "ok" or some sort of respect back, then I'd have to say you're deeply mistaken.  J will be 30 in January (sorry J, you old a$$ fart), he's not some kid that is five or ten years younger where he's expected to listen to an elder no matter what.  So when you tell me he told him to watch his mouth, what is that suppose to mean to me?  Only J's dad can tell him to watch his mouth.  I wouldn't expect him to take that from anyone, nor would anybody else in this league take crap from anybody else either.  Understand that I've known Fadi since I was about five or six, but more closely over the past couple of years, and I wouldn't want anybody to disrespect him, or vice versa...but don't tell me about how he would have handled it back in the day and you give him credit for controlling himself, b/c we're all grown ass men here, intelligent and respectable, we're expected to control ourselves...issues are prevented by people checking themselves up and knowing where the line is and not to cross it, bottom line.


p.s. I appreciate that you and I are having a civil dialogue



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